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- Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #37
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- Ham-Digital Digest Mon, 14 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 37
-
- Today's Topics:
- 219 Committee Report -- your comments
- 30 meter "Band Plan"
- Digital radio ?
- How to get started
- MFJ 1278B vs Kantronics KAM+
- Need info on PI card
- Packet BBS run off of a SUN?
- PE1CHL: where to get current version?
- Squelch ON or OFF?
- Yaesu FT-470 RX Range?
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Feb 94 03:57:49 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: 219 Committee Report -- your comments
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
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- ---------------- Your original message ----------------
-
- To: WA6WIF
-
- I am prepared to respond to any specific comments you may have on the
- 219 Committee report.
-
- I do not wish to address your personal attack on Jim Fortney other than to
- assure that I prepared the drafts of the reports based upon the discussion
- conducted by the Committee Jan 7-9 in Cleveland. Jim did critique
- the draft, as did all members of the Committee.
-
- The Band Plan and other remarks represent the collect thought of our
- Committee at that point in time. Based upon further data, particularly
- investigations underway to assure that the technical objectives are
- appropriate, it may be that there will be some changes the will be
- incorporated into the final report.
-
- You, or any other reader, are welcome to provide input into this process.
-
- Tod Olson, K0TO
- Chairman, 219 Committee
- Director, Dakota Division
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 14:11:07 +0000
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!dis.demon.co.uk!imcldn.demon.co.uk!mike@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 30 meter "Band Plan"
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2jjq73$3o@crcnis1.unl.edu>
- djw@unlinfo.unl.edu "daniel wright" writes:
-
- > I have a question.................
- > 10Mhz/30 meters. What is the cw portion? What is the packet portion?
- > Are Amtor and Pactor and RTTY only acceptable on certian portions of
-
- The allocation in the UK (at least) is
-
- 10.100 - 10.140 CW
- 10.140 - 10.150 Digimodes
-
- However there is a side note that unattended digimodes should not be used on
- this band
-
- 73s Mike G7OBS
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:49:22 -0500
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user@ames.arpa
- Subject: Digital radio ?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CKywty.H4u@kaiwan.com>, jlin@kaiwan.com (Johnny Lin) wrote:
-
- >
- > I am a newbie in amature radio, but like to know if there is rig that can
- > do following functions and features.
- >
- > 1. Digital selective calling.
-
- Many portables from offshore do include a digital signalling feature,
- though the number of characters is limited. FYI, many repeaters will not
- pass the digital
- signalling information due to distortion in the audio path or muting in the
- controller unit.
-
- > 2. Signal encryption, so only A and B can chat, no one else can listen to.
-
- Amateur frequencies and bands are strictly shared, with no provisions for
- either
- message or conversational privacy. The FCC Rules prohibit codes and
- ciphers, and also require that ID be done in either voice or Morse Intl#1.
- If you need privacy, moe to a common carrier or commercial system where
- such technology is both available and legal (it's not legal in CB/GMRS
- either!).
-
- > 3. A automatic TNC that can manage voice/data/fax switching, when connected
- > with PC, can handle voice mail, e-mail and fax transmission and reception.
-
- TNCs are inherently and by definition digital devices, with no voice
- capability.
- The ones I've seen on the market today do not offer automatic mode
- detection and switching from packet to RTTY, Morse, AMTOR, or FAX modes.
-
- > 4. If operator is away, can configure to away mode, let radio take call
- > (by selcal call sign)and work like a phone answering machine, RBBS or
- > fax machine. When operator is near by, then configure to active mode,
- > so radio will ring like a phone, for operator to pick up the call.
-
- There are several simple interconnects from various suppliers, most of whom
- advertise in all the major ham magazines, to allow communications through a
-
- local radio to a portable or mobile. All communications come under
- third-party
- rules, since the caller is assumed NOT to be a licensed amateur.
-
- >
- > May be I am dreaming, but with recent electronic and digital technology
- > evolution, I believe above feature can be integrated into one total radio
- > system. I know that marine radio will adopt digital selective calling
- > technology for safety purpose, and I hope I can see this kind of feature
- > in Ham rig.
-
- The international Maritime service is considerably different from ham
- radio,
- both in usage and regulatory structure. Actually it sounds like you are
- trying
- to operate your amateur station like a smart multi-mode cordless phone for
- personal and possibly business use. Even with the recent rules changes,
- business
- use is prohibited. I hope I'm reading far too much into your comments.
-
- >
- > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
- > |Johnny C. Lin P.O.Box 536 Tel:310-9263682 |
- > | Artesia, CA 90702 Fax:310-9269526 |
- > | U.S.A. |
-
- --
- Karl Beckman, P.E. < STUPIDITY is an elemental force for which >
- Motorola Comm - Fixed Data < no earthquake is a match. -- Karl Kraus >
-
- The opinions expressed above aren't even claimed by the author!
- Amateur radio WA8NVW @ K8MR.NEOH.USA.NA NavyMARS VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 12 Feb 94 00:22:59 GMT
- From: sgiblab!twg.com!eco.twg.com!psinntp!commpost!meister!rspicher@ames.arpa
- Subject: How to get started
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi;
-
- I would like to get started in packet radio, more specifically, access to the
- Internet through a Sun Sparcstation. I am an experienced system administrator,
- however, I have very little experience on the radio side. Can someone point me in
- the right direction? I'm looking for white-papers, howto's, FAQ's and any other
- material that can help me to get started. This will be strictly for my personal
- use at home.
-
- I definitely need full service TCP/IP so that I can pull news and ftp files, run
- Mosaice, etc.
-
-
- Thanks,
-
-
-
- Roger Spicher
- rspicher@ml.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:35:28 GMT
- From: netcon!bongo!netcomsv!netcom.com!slay@locus.ucla.edu
- Subject: MFJ 1278B vs Kantronics KAM+
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Scott Barnett (srbarnet@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
- : Hi All,
- : I am looking at getting a TNC to do packet with, but I thought maybe to get
- : a multimode because I might want to get into other digital modes in the
- : future. I have looked at the MFJ 1278B and like what I see. Also, a friend
- : suggested the Kantronics KAM. Which do you think would be better. This is
- : to use with a Realistic HTX-202 2 meter FM HT. Or is there another one
- : you like better?
-
- Whoa - looks like we have a major problem here.
- First, if you plan to use ONLY your 2M FM HT, you are wasting a lot of time
- and MONEY looking at a Multi-Mode Controller. You will NOT be able to use
- the wide range of features in the MMC with just your HT. Virtually ANY
- 1200bps TNC (TNC-2 type) will be all that you need.
-
- The MMCs like KAM and MFJ-1278 etc rally shine on the HF bands. I have and
- use BOTH the KAM and MFJ-1278T as well as a pocket TNC for portable use.
- If you want to do the SSTV and FAX modes, the MFJ-1278 is the way to go.
- I personally prefer the KAM these days because I want and need the dual
- port capability. I want to be connected to the DX PacketCluster on VHF at
- the same time that I am on CW, FSK, etc on HF. The MFJ-1278 does not
- have the dual-port function. I frankly have a quite a bit more invested
- in my MFJ-1278T (w/extra ram and 9600bps modem, host mode s/w, etc) but
- for ANYONE interested in DXing and using PacketCluster - the KAM is the
- ONLY way to go - IMHO.
- Warmest 73 de Sandy WA6BXH/7J1ABV slay@netcom.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 12:26:09 MST
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Need info on PI card
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I've been reading this group for some time and remember reading several
- posts a while back concerning the PI card that supports 56k baud async
- AND a 9600 baud capable port.
-
- This card is just what we need for our packet gateway! We will use the 56k
- baud async port to connect us to the Internet feed while we hope to use
- the 9600 baud port for a 9600 baud packet port. Obviously we will be
- running NOS as the software for the gateway.
-
- Therefore, I would like to know if the PI card will do this?
- I would appreciate receiving any information relative to the PI card.
-
- Thanks!
-
- 73 de N7SHV !
-
-
-
- Kris Nosack
- Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, U.S.A.
- kris_nosack@byu.edu
-
- >>>---> Be strange, but not a stranger! <---<<<
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 17:45:18 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!hk.super.net!uxmail!uxmail.ust.hk!ee_hflo@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Packet BBS run off of a SUN?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Karl J. Vesterling (kjv@exuco1.exucom.com) wrote:
- : In article <CKvDE3.M5v@acsu.buffalo.edu> v125pemm@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY H. O'HARA) writes:
- : >Hello,
-
- : Greetings...
-
- : >
- : >I was wondering if anyone out there has ever run a packet BBS of of a
- : >UNIX box like a SUN.
-
- : Sun, no... SGI, yes, probably next week...
-
- : HOWEVER!
-
- : FTP to:
- : ucsd.edu
-
- : /pub/hamradio/packet/tcpip/wampes
-
- : You will find what you require in that directory...
-
- : >
- : >Most of my experience is with DOS based machines as well as VMS and UNIX
- : >mainframes.
-
- : I've had nothing but bad experience with DOS machines.
- : >
- : >Is it possible to set up a SUN in a stand alone config.
-
- : FTP to ucsd.edu and be enlightened...
-
-
- Are there any BBS programs for Linux ?
-
- Michael Lo
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 14:02:15 MEZ
- From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!netmbx.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!zib-berlin.de!uni-paderborn.de!urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!UPP200@
- Subject: PE1CHL: where to get current version?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Greetings,
-
- I'm trying to find the latest version of PE1CHL's net program for MSDOS.
- All I found up to now was a tar-file named pe1chl-930411.tar which contained
- a zipped file NET.ZIP. Unfortunately this file seems to be corrupted.
- Are there any other files available? Or am I just too stupid to unzip the
- thing?
-
- Thanks
- Guido (df2kw)
-
- e-mail: Kueppers@uni-bonn.de
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Feb 1994 23:22:05 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!koriel!newscast.West.Sun.COM!abyss.West.Sun.COM!pongo!myers@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Squelch ON or OFF?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Feb8.201655.20182@VFL.Paramax.COM> rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM (Pete Rossi) writes:
- >When operating 2 meter packet should I have the receiver squelch ON or OFF?
- >
- >Most sources indicate that the squelch can/should be turned off, however, I
- >find that when I do this the background noise causes the DCD light to flash.
- >This confuses the TNC making it think that the channel is busy when it is not.
- >
- >I am using the MJF-1270C
-
- Running open squelch is optimum as long as your TNC/modem has a DCD
- circuit that senses the presence of data rather than the presence of
- any audio at all. Doesn't the MFJ-1270C have State Machine DCD?
- If not, last I checked the State Machine DCD kit is $17 from TAPR,
- worth every penny.
-
- --
- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD 466 | Views expressed here are *
- * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily *
- * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer *
- * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Feb 1994 00:07:33 GMT
- From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!da884@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Yaesu FT-470 RX Range?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I've gotten the radio to go as far as 0 mhz to 1.5 Ghz mind you it doesn't
- recv on all that range but it does for a good part in the 2M and 70 cm areas.
-
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